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2010-08-03
Morning Sidekick Renaissance Fair 
Ah, the summer ritual of the Renaissance Fair, when the guys who play jolly Santa at the mall switch to their other job of playing the jolly medieval king.
But hark! Before our minstrels regale you, let our humble company of players unwind the woeful tale.

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Comments:
2010-08-03 nick007
Is Marc Gunn's Naughty Wench there? Mite be worth going if she is but I doubt she's there cuz those people could not sound any less enthusiastic if they wer dead
2010-08-03 maxgoof
I've always wondered about the association of Renn Faires and turkey legs. I mean, the Renaissance occured from about the 13th to the 17th Centuries. Turkeys come from the New World, which had no influence on Europe until the 16th, and turkeys were not brought to Europe until well after the Renaissance had ended. So, what's up with these turkey legs?
2010-08-03 scifantasy
This may be the first FuMP song that actually bothers me. (As opposed to my simply thinking that a song is not funny, which does occasionally happen, but I'm not _bothered_ by it.) It seems like a pretty typical dig against Renaissance Faires, especially in the "obese losers" description. Harsh, dismissive, even contemptuous. I'm reminded of "The Geeks Come Out at Night"'s interlude with the mundanes. I think it's a function of Morning Sidekick's role; being a morning DJ service, it's a lot more mainstream, on the average, than the rest of the FuMP. When Sidekick does a general parody like "Go Commando," it's fine, because that's universal. But this...I'm not sure the FuMP is the target audience for this one. We're just the target.
2010-08-03 Insane Ian
At least in the description, I'd have to agree with scifantasy. However, I liked the song at the end...this one kind of leaves me torn.
2010-08-03 nick007
maxgoof made my head hurt LOL I didn't think bout turkey legs before. I went to a Renaissance fair 1ce years ago & I'd go again if I had a chance & I wasn't bothered by this scifantasy but I guess I can see how some people here will be. Maybe Morning Sidekick should stick to posting the song parodies here. Their stuff's been pretty good & I'm NOT saying that this one is bad
2010-08-03 weirdojace
Nah, the FuMP needs more songs that make fun of its listeners. That's what being funny is all about!

(has never written a song making fun of conventions... nope, never...)
2010-08-03 morningsidekick
I want to apologize to anyone who was offended or bothered. Frankly, it never occurred to me that Renaissance Festivals were in a family with role-playing, cosplay, medievel D&D type fantasy, etc. beloved by our geek community. That was a huge blind spot. And me a dedicated fan of The Guild.
For whatever reason, I've always thought of Renaissance Festivals as being spectacularly lame - hand-in-hand with the scary transient carnivals that set up shop in local mall parking lots for a few days every summer, with their clearly down-and-out staff and almost-broken-down rides.
True story: My wife took our kids to the Colorado Renaissance Festival last week. (Their website tag is, so help me, "Prepare thyself to revel with master revelers at the Colorado Renaissance Festival, where pleasures reign and merrymaking is the rule.") She was surprised how large, developed and polished it was - there is no corner of the geek world immune to financial exploitation. We injected a significant amount of cash into the enterprise, and came home with numerous swords, crowns, etc.
Sorry if I sounded "harsh, dismissive, even contemptuous". I went a little too Bill Maher. And sorry about the "obese losers" phrase. When it comes to comedy, I often think of William Hurt in "Broadcast News" - "It's hard not to cross the line when they keep moving it all the time." Repeated viewings of "Paul Blart: Mall Cop" can make one think certain People Of Mass are fair game, especially when large actors and actresses eagerly step up to perpetuate the ridicule.
I promise to ramp up my sensitivity. Folks, I was 100% geek out of the starting gate. I've been a hardcore scifi addict since Fireball XL5. I'm a computer nerd who taught himself Flash animation 3 years ago. Discovering Jonathan Coulton inspired me to return to DAW music production. I've spent 18 months working on a tribute song about the Sanctuary TV show, and I've just started a tribute song about ComicCon. I'm not here to insult anybody, just to join in the fun.
- Jesse Smith, Morning Sidekick
2010-08-03 scifantasy
Jesse, thanks for understanding my position. Apology accepted and appreciated.
2010-08-03 stevegoodie
Jesse.... NO!!!! Never apologize for a legitimate creative attempt at humor! I for one found it totally relatable and very funny. If we are too careful we risk missing the really good, really funny stuff. Even when Maxgoof rips me apart for "Bye Bye W," he still loves me for "Tweetin On A Jet Plane." If we "funny people" carefully try to please everyone, we will then proceed directly to sucking. AND... all you FuMPers who might get your feelings hurt... shut up! We're supposed to be able to dish it out AND take it. Come on... grow a pair. Ladies too. We can stand to be the butt of a joke now and then, can't we? Are we not men, Devo? (sorry, I just had to throw that in... never mind...) Okay, I'm done ranting now. Must go think up new song to offend the geek community and poultry farmers!
2010-08-03 stevegoodie
Jesse.... NO!!!! Never apologize for a legitimate creative attempt at humor! I for one found it totally relatable and very funny. If we are too careful we risk missing the really good, really funny stuff. Even when Maxgoof rips me apart for "Bye Bye W," he still loves me for "Tweetin On A Jet Plane." If we "funny people" carefully try to please everyone, we will then proceed directly to sucking. AND... all you FuMPers who might get your feelings hurt... shut up! We're supposed to be able to dish it out AND take it. Come on... grow a pair. Ladies too. We can stand to be the butt of a joke now and then, can't we? Are we not men, Devo? (sorry, I just had to throw that in... never mind...) Okay, I'm done ranting now. Must go think up new song to offend the geek community and poultry farmers!
2010-08-03 squirreludecker
Ren Faires arent in the same family as roleplaying, cosplay, Fump music, etc. they are in a family with LARPing, SCA events, and such. Personally i found nothing offensive about this, in fact it sounds a lot like the MidSouthCon commercials that go out on memphis tv around feb/march. without the music at the end of course. As long as it wasnt trying to be malicious (and i dont think it was) then theres nothing wrong with digging at any element of fandom. especially Ren Faires.
2010-08-03 weirdojace
Steve just said everything I wanted to say but was too much of a pussy to.
2010-08-03 rick cormier
I loved the "throw your turkey leg at the mime" line. But, if you watched "Paul Blart: Mall Cop" more than once, there's something wrong with you. Actually, if you sat through it all the way through once, there's something wrong with you. By the way, I'm one of those People of Mass.
2010-08-03 ladygaga
I go commando to the Ren Faire.
2010-08-04 maxgoof
Yeah! Yeah!! What Steve Goodie said!!
2010-08-04 nick007
Well said Steve. I believe we shouldn't lath at anyone if we cant lath at ourselves. But next time you could use this DuckMan quote instead~ "Comedy should provoke! It should blast through prejudices, challenge preconceptions! Comedy should always leave you different than when it found you. Sure, humor can hurt, even alienate, but the risk is better than the alternative: a steady diet of innocuous, child-proof, flavorless mush! Demand to be challenged, to be offended, to be treated like thinking, reasoning adults. And raise your children to be the same. Don't let a comedian, a network, a Congressional committee, or an evil genius take away your freedom to laugh at whatever you want." I'm glad those two are kewl but I would of liked to seem em sword fighting LOL
2010-08-04 morningsidekick
I hope THIS doesn't offend anyone, but honestly one of the things I find most endearing about the geek community is a fairly common thin-skinned emotional sensibility. We are easily offended and emotionally hurt, and sometimes we hide that under a veneer of pride in whatever aspect of fantasy or technology we enjoy. Wil Wheaton's blog This is why flaming can get so vicious, like playground taunting. We are, truly, kids who never grew up - or should I say adults who never got jaded into numbness. The upside of this is that geeks are some of the most emotionally honest people and truest friends you'll ever find.

Anyway, I've been doing comedy since before the young earth was sideswiped and the moon was created, and trust me, I've done lots and lots of funny yet mean-spirited stuff. Of course it's valid as comedy and as entertainment. But I do think you've got to "play to the room." scifantasy was simply reminding me of this vital show biz axiom.

Jesse
2010-08-04 morningsidekick
Grr. Coding messed up my formatting. In there it was supposed to say (COUGH) Wil Wheaton's blog (COUGH)
2010-08-04 morningsidekick
Rick, LOL - it isn't my choice to watch Mall Cop over and over. My kids really like it (6, 6 and 9 yrs old). (So ... maybe I should have them DNA tested?)
2010-08-04 ProjectSisyphus
I'd been kicking this idea around for a bit meself and finally gave up on it as I figured somebody would have hit this. Thanks! My own half-baked version would not have denigrated the Fat Ladies, who are Delightful in their Large Bosomedness, but focused on the less appealing aspects of the Ren scene, such as: 1) Long, traffic-jammed drive to unappealing, hot dusty suburb. Stopping for Slurpees in period costume. 2) Arrival at poorly maintained county park which will next week be used for
2010-08-04 morningsidekick
O ... M ... G. I had no idea. I was glad I didn't go w the family, now I'm thanking Cthulhu.

(Altho I think there was a design for a churro in one of da Vinci's notebooks.)
2010-08-04 morningsidekick
O ... M ... G. I had no idea. I was glad I didn't go w the family, now I'm thanking Cthulhu.

(Altho I think there was a design for a churro in one of da Vinci's notebooks.)
2010-08-04 Carrie Dahlby
I enjoy Ren Faires (Haven't been to one in a while, but singing in a madrigal group at a Ren Faire would probably be my #2 dream job, after singing with Steely Dan), but I also enjoyed this track. *shrug* It takes a LOT to offend me.
2010-08-04 carlau
as someone wisely pointed out to me once: comedy is pain, so it has to have a target. for msot of this bit, the target was the lameness of the situation, which is innocuous and TRUE! truth= funny. your one comment about largenss offended the large people. okay. point taken. but the rest of it was hilarious, and the blase attitude of the commercial was spot on. don't be discouraged, morning sidekick. i loved it. just write what you write, then after you're done, run a quick check to see who you may have offended and decide whether it's worth it. but do NOT let it stifle your writing process. ever.
2010-08-04 carlau
PS this is why i never record something until I've performed it successfully. well mostly, to make sure it works, for whatever reason. roc on!
2010-08-04 carlau
PPS i looked into playing at ren faire in georgia. OMG the pay SUCKED!
2010-08-05 shoebox
Carrie - Steely Dan sucks. :) *Runs*
2010-08-17 djseamus
Well I for one thank Morning Sidekick for posting a main-page, Celtic-flavored Fump. As a DJ of a radio show with a primarily Celtic folk format I am always on the look-out for songs whose genre can fit in both Celtic and comedy, which is why I like Marc Gunn so much. It is my firm belief (and humble opinion) that there is not enough folk music in filk these days. And I'll admit that I have attended narry a Renn fair, nor a sci fi/fantasy convention; I fall into the category of Fump listeners who do not subscribe to any particular form of Geekdom, and find humor in almost anything put out by the musicians, though I tend to find songs about the mundane the funniest, as opposed to songs about specific movies or TV shows that I may not have seen....I don't find those songs as funny as songs about, say, cleaning out your fridge, or seagulls pooping on your car, or loosing your luggage. That being said, I applaud the morning sidekick for stirring up controversy with simply a short, sweet parody of the traditional English "Scarborough Fair", preceded by a dead-pan advertisement for ye olde Renaissance Fair. Jolly good show, lads and lasses! I raise a tankard of cheap beer meade to ye!
2010-08-31 voiceroy
Yeah, apologizing for satire is bad. Definitely bad. This was just a riff on stereotypical ren fairs. It didn't even sound remotely mean-spirited to me. And I loved the S&G spoof at the end. The opening bit reminded me of that scene in "Cable Guy" with Janeane Groffalow (or however the crap you spell her name) as the Medieval Times "serving wench".
2010-09-17 toren
Please don't apologize, I'm the admin for the largest single faire group on the web and we all loved it. Bravo and keep up the great work!
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